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hotgazpacho says: @coreyhaines

@kberridge

You might also ask @Ben_Hall

. I think he actively tests .NET code with IronRuby
7 hours ago by Will Green (@hotgazpacho), in reply to @coreyhaines - tags: .NET, DLR, Ruby

hotgazpacho says: @coreyhaines

@kberridge

yes, agree on "debug tests". Debugger here is more for stepping into IronRuby itself.
7 hours ago by Will Green (@hotgazpacho), in reply to @coreyhaines - tags: Debugging, DLR, Ruby

hotgazpacho says: @coreyhaines

@kberridge

I used RSpec for iron-term-ansicolor: http://bit.ly/jgP0g Debugging on the IronRuby wiki: http://bit.ly/9QT7Ix
7 hours ago by Will Green (@hotgazpacho), in reply to @coreyhaines - tags: Debugging, DLR, Ruby

hotgazpacho says: @jglozano

@lazycoder

Not implying you were. My point is that MS, by-and-large, has a captive audience. They *can* make these changes.
7 hours ago by Will Green (@hotgazpacho), in reply to @jglozano - tags: Microsoft

hotgazpacho says: @jglozano

@lazycoder

Sure, they might bitch for a while, but most devs on the MS platform are codependent on Microsoft.
7 hours ago by Will Green (@hotgazpacho), in reply to @jglozano - tags: Microsoft

hotgazpacho says: @jglozano

@lazycoder

How many devs on the MS platform do you think would *really* jump ship if they changed things for the better?
7 hours ago by Will Green (@hotgazpacho), in reply to @jglozano - tags: Microsoft

hotgazpacho says: @jglozano

Microsoft should change that, rather than perpetuate the ignorance
9 hours ago by Will Green (@hotgazpacho), in reply to @jglozano - tags: Microsoft

hotgazpacho says: @Ben_Hall

nothing wrong with csc. You gotta compile C#. MSBuild and the solution system, though, sucks.
9 hours ago by Will Green (@hotgazpacho), in reply to @Ben_Hall - tags: C#

hotgazpacho says: .NET Developers should demand the decoupling of project building from project authorship (the IDE).
9 hours ago by Will Green (@hotgazpacho) - tags: .NET

hotgazpacho says: RT @davybrion

: i'm going to start referring to MSDN-style development as Fisher Price Development from now on
13 hours ago by Will Green (@hotgazpacho), retweet - tags: MSDN

hotgazpacho says: @brian_henderson

clearly, there are not enough turds floating in the .NET pool...
1 days ago by Will Green (@hotgazpacho), in reply to @brian_henderson - tags: .NET

hotgazpacho says: @bsimser

sounds like an issue with your ruby install
1 days ago by Will Green (@hotgazpacho), in reply to @bsimser - tags: Ruby

hotgazpacho says: @bsimser

>ir -S gem install xunitnet Successfully installed xunitnet-1.6.1-universal-dotnet-2.0 1 gem installed
1 days ago by Will Green (@hotgazpacho), in reply to @bsimser - tags: .NET

hotgazpacho says: @mhinze

Agreed. I find I care less and less about type the more I use Ruby. That is, until C# drags me kicking & screaming back to it
1 days ago by Will Green (@hotgazpacho), in reply to @mhinze - tags: C#, Ruby

hotgazpacho says: @RoryBecker

Surely you must believe that I've tried that. Maybe its the MFC app talking to C++\CLI hosting WPF hosting Winforms. Nah....
1 days ago by Will Green (@hotgazpacho), in reply to @RoryBecker - tags: CLR, WPF

hotgazpacho says: @mhinze

Yeah, not trying to knock F#, but when one mocks dynamic languages while lauding similar features in static languages...
1 days ago by Will Green (@hotgazpacho), in reply to @mhinze - tags: F#, Mocks

hotgazpacho says: Second reboot in an hour dues to Visual Studio debugger locking up. I hate the debugger.
1 days ago by Will Green (@hotgazpacho) - tags: Visual Studio

hotgazpacho says: @mhinze

Sounds like class_eval in Ruby...
1 days ago by Will Green (@hotgazpacho), in reply to @mhinze - tags: Ruby

hotgazpacho says: @lisacrispin

@marick

...unless you use IronRuby: (ir):1:undefined method `quit' for main:Object (NoMethodError) /cc @jschementi

1 days ago by Will Green (@hotgazpacho), in reply to @lisacrispin - tags: DLR, Ruby

hotgazpacho says: RT @lazycoder

: @hotgazpacho

it depends. Do you think you'll automatically be able to run you favorite little hinky Linux app on Windows? ...
1 days ago by Will Green (@hotgazpacho), retweet - tags: Windows

hotgazpacho says: RT @pjboudrx

: Speculative performance 'fixes' introduce the worst kind of bugs. This can be avoided with proper unit test coverage, though.
1 days ago by Will Green (@hotgazpacho), retweet - tags: Bugs, TDD

hotgazpacho says: RT @stevenharman

: you know what would make a developer's life on Windows much more tolerable? POSIX compliance. #POSIX_Windows
1 days ago by Will Green (@hotgazpacho), retweet - tags: Windows

hotgazpacho says: Rubinius is Ruby written in Ruby, right? So, in theory, I should be able to grab source and build it on Windows, right? /cc: @evanphx
1 days ago by Will Green (@hotgazpacho) - tags: Ruby, Windows

hotgazpacho says: @kevindente

feels good, doesn't it? :-) Doong it on a Linux box, or slimming it on Windows? Got autotest running?
1 days ago by Will Green (@hotgazpacho), in reply to @kevindente - tags: Windows

hotgazpacho says: Then again, 1st audience are not warm to the idea of TDD; I also wonder how the bits on SOLID we go over. Hopefully, conversation starter
1 days ago by Will Green (@hotgazpacho) - tags: Agile, TDD

hotgazpacho says: Taking the advice of more experienced speakers and including less text in this Testing slide deck. Think next week will be 1st run, at work.
1 days ago by Will Green (@hotgazpacho) - tags: TDD

hotgazpacho says: @luislavena

of course it is... it involves Windows ;-)
1 days ago by Will Green (@hotgazpacho), in reply to @luislavena - tags: Windows

hotgazpacho says: RT @theprogrammer

: Mark Needham comments on Kent Beck’s Test Driven Development Screencasts http://bit.ly/9DWY04
2 days ago by Will Green (@hotgazpacho), retweet - tags: TDD

hotgazpacho says: RT @GavinStark

: BTW, tampa devs, @zii is looking to start a local javascript meetup. Will meet a pub/bar and be named/themed beer.js Ta ...
2 days ago by Will Green (@hotgazpacho), retweet - tags: Ajax

hotgazpacho says: @TStewart_Dev

:-) It is a general principle. But I don't think I have much sway with too many people within Microsoft. But I feel your pain
2 days ago by Will Green (@hotgazpacho), in reply to @TStewart_Dev - tags: Microsoft

hotgazpacho says: RT @kevindente

: @hotgazpacho

of course, these are subtleties. If people are writing tests at all, they're ahead of the game (in the .NET ...
2 days ago by Will Green (@hotgazpacho), retweet - tags: .NET

hotgazpacho says: RT @zedshaw: What is up with people and not knowing basic unit testing? Fuck your compiler, evidence trumps logic everytime asshats: ht ...
2 days ago by Will Green (@hotgazpacho), retweet - tags: TDD

hotgazpacho says: I don't think it possible to discuss TDD without talking about SOLID
2 days ago by Will Green (@hotgazpacho) - tags: Agile, TDD

hotgazpacho says: @sbohlen

@hhariri

@jeremydmiller

I believe @haacked

was clear about this right around when they released MVC 2. It should surprise no one
2 days ago by Will Green (@hotgazpacho), in reply to @sbohlen - tags: MVC

hotgazpacho says: RT @JohnnoNolan

: @hotgazpacho

testing the filesystem/framework/db
2 days ago by Will Green (@hotgazpacho), retweet - tags: TDD

hotgazpacho says: RT @theprogrammer

: @hotgazpacho

test without asserts. Using try - catch to avoid exceptions in your test
2 days ago by Will Green (@hotgazpacho), retweet - tags: Exceptions

hotgazpacho says: Thanks, @bphogan

@theprogrammer

@mhinze

for the input on TDD anti-patterns. Retweets coming. Anyone got some more?
2 days ago by Will Green (@hotgazpacho) - tags: Agile, TDD

hotgazpacho says: Looking for TDD anti-patterns for a presentation on developer testing that I'm putting together.
2 days ago by Will Green (@hotgazpacho) - tags: Agile, TDD

hotgazpacho says: RT @jcansdale

: A set of guidelines for better unit test: http://is.gd/dR4Lb Do you agree with them all? I'm sure @AdamCogan

would like f ...
2 days ago by Will Green (@hotgazpacho), retweet - tags: TDD

hotgazpacho says: RT @jbogard

: i think thats tdd 101 - if code exists solely to allow unit testing but is otherwise unused, doesnt that mean the design is ...
2 days ago by Will Green (@hotgazpacho), retweet - tags: Agile, TDD

hotgazpacho says: @sbohlen

@jeremydmiller

I wish MS would stop trying to be everything to every dev & take a stand to raise the level of devs.
2 days ago by Will Green (@hotgazpacho), in reply to @sbohlen - tags: Microsoft

hotgazpacho says: @benhyr

If you give version dependency management over to Ruby Gems, this is a solved issue: http://vurl.me/TMB
2 days ago by Will Green (@hotgazpacho), in reply to @benhyr - tags: Ruby

hotgazpacho says: ROFL RT @cory_foy

: Man, if only Wikileaks would do this for .NET projects too: http://trunc.it/9ssnj
2 days ago by Will Green (@hotgazpacho) - tags: .NET

hotgazpacho says: @drusellers

@bsimser

No reason you couldn't use the same software running rubygems.org on a new host and keep it .NET focused #nuproj
2 days ago by Will Green (@hotgazpacho), in reply to @drusellers - tags: .NET

hotgazpacho says: I control my own domain, and I have both a Apps for my Domain and Google account. I want to merge them into apps for domain acct. Possible?
2 days ago by Will Green (@hotgazpacho) - tags: Google

hotgazpacho says: RT @unclebobmartin

: Project Managers have neither the right nor the competence to set technical policy eg refactoring and unit testing.
2 days ago by Will Green (@hotgazpacho), retweet - tags: Refactoring, TDD

hotgazpacho says: @Ben_Hall

@ironshay

That's a code block. All Ruby methods take a code block (though weather they yield to it is entirely up to the method)
2 days ago by Will Green (@hotgazpacho), in reply to @Ben_Hall - tags: Ruby

hotgazpacho says: RT @wycats

: #protip in Rails 3, render :collection is much faster than looping over a collection and calling render :partial manually
2 days ago by Will Green (@hotgazpacho), retweet - tags: Ruby

hotgazpacho says: @gar3t

Would be helpful if you filed a bug report: http://ironruby.codeplex.com/workitem/list/basic
2 days ago by Will Green (@hotgazpacho), in reply to @gar3t - tags: Bugs

hotgazpacho says: RT @just3ws

: Unfreaking unbelievable! Live on our target date; who says Rails can't do enterprise. Supreme job by our dev lead @jimbreen ...
3 days ago by Will Green (@hotgazpacho), retweet - tags: Ruby

hotgazpacho says: RT @joelowrance

: not sure i could do rails professionally.. my rss habits depend on long compile times and multi-minute feedback cycles
3 days ago by Will Green (@hotgazpacho), retweet - tags: RSS, Ruby

hotgazpacho says: I am also thankful that I did not have to fight very hard to prevent the removal of the Unit Test build configuration from the CI server.
3 days ago by Will Green (@hotgazpacho) - tags: Continuous Integration, TDD

hotgazpacho says: r @lisacrispin

@catschwamm

Unit Tests build on CI server averages ~ 1 minute. Integration Tests build on CI server averages about 15 minutes
3 days ago by Will Green (@hotgazpacho) - tags: Continuous Integration

hotgazpacho says: @jm

@wycats

I think "core http code" in Windows is http.sys, an operating system level library, which corps are known to not push to users
3 days ago by Will Green (@hotgazpacho), in reply to @jm - tags: Windows

hotgazpacho says: RT @wycats

: Commented at http://bit.ly/9mznpg about concerns that workarounds for Internet Explorer don't belong in Rails
3 days ago by Will Green (@hotgazpacho), retweet - tags: IE, Ruby

hotgazpacho says: @mitchlabrador

:-) My only thought on Razor is that static langs, IME, tend to make shitty hosts for DSLs. Razor is a DSL, C# is static...
3 days ago by Will Green (@hotgazpacho), in reply to @mitchlabrador - tags: C#

hotgazpacho says: I am a code tailor. Visual Studio is my sewing machine. Time to open this class up. Cause, you know, viewmodels need a handle to the DB...
3 days ago by Will Green (@hotgazpacho) - tags: Visual Studio

hotgazpacho says: @SittenSpynne

My time in WPF is short lived. Soon, I'll be back to POStB: Plain Old Stabby Brackets
3 days ago by Will Green (@hotgazpacho), in reply to @SittenSpynne - tags: WPF

hotgazpacho says: Using the string "WTF" for invalid object type while testing custom IValueConverters. Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
3 days ago by Will Green (@hotgazpacho) - tags: TDD

hotgazpacho says: @hhariri

I didn't forget your past or doubt your studies. But there's much more to Ruby than just less ceremony.
3 days ago by Will Green (@hotgazpacho), in reply to @hhariri - tags: Ruby

hotgazpacho says: @hhariri

If that is what you think, then I suggest you read up a bit more on Ruby. There's stuff one can never comprehend doing in C#
3 days ago by Will Green (@hotgazpacho), in reply to @hhariri - tags: C#, Ruby

hotgazpacho says: @hhariri

fair enough. But there is certainly much more to it. Didn't realize how much more until I studied Ruby more thoroughly myself
3 days ago by Will Green (@hotgazpacho), in reply to @hhariri - tags: Ruby

hotgazpacho says: @hhariri

and I don't think you contradicted yourself, but I think emphasis was misplaced. But I'm a Ruby "fanboi", so... ;-)
3 days ago by Will Green (@hotgazpacho), in reply to @hhariri - tags: Ruby

hotgazpacho says: RT @jasongorman: Being only 1 on team who does TDD is like being only honest person in an honour bar. End up paying for everyone's drinks
3 days ago by Will Green (@hotgazpacho), retweet - tags: Agile, TDD

hotgazpacho says: @hhariri

the one about plugins making Rails productive. ;-)
3 days ago by Will Green (@hotgazpacho), in reply to @hhariri - tags: Ruby

hotgazpacho says: RT @jasongorman: The perception that TDD "takes longer" comes from the illusion of "delivered on time" when not doing TDD
3 days ago by Will Green (@hotgazpacho), retweet - tags: Agile, TDD

hotgazpacho says: @hhariri

Says a .NET developer. Why not ask the guys at Thoughtworks, who use both platforms, why they tend to use one over the other.
3 days ago by Will Green (@hotgazpacho), in reply to @hhariri - tags: .NET

hotgazpacho says: @mattpodwysocki

have you looked at RxNET under IronRuby since 1.1 has been released? I think CLR genetics support was improved
3 days ago by Will Green (@hotgazpacho), in reply to @mattpodwysocki - tags: CLR, DLR, Ruby

hotgazpacho says: @lazycoder

Just callin' it like I see it. There's shitty Ruby code, too. Just ask @objo

, he's seen a bit of that recently
4 days ago by Will Green (@hotgazpacho), in reply to @lazycoder - tags: Ruby

hotgazpacho says: RT @ehexter

: ok.. so ruby gems.. works way better at the home network then at work..
4 days ago by Will Green (@hotgazpacho), retweet - tags: Ruby

hotgazpacho says: Was considering an agile anti-patterns post tonight. Then I had a couple of beers. #fuckit #wasteoftime #cantchangethisshit
4 days ago by Will Green (@hotgazpacho) - tags: Agile

hotgazpacho says: RT @dhh

: We've crossed another milestone for Rails development. More than 1,600 people had at least one patch accepted: http://bit.ly/OFVfJ
4 days ago by Will Green (@hotgazpacho), retweet - tags: Ruby

hotgazpacho says: "Microsoft Visual Studio is Busy" ...pissing me off, that is.
4 days ago by Will Green (@hotgazpacho) - tags: Microsoft, Visual Studio

hotgazpacho says: @Ben_Hall

ask @coreyhaines

about TDD in Ruby
4 days ago by Will Green (@hotgazpacho), in reply to @Ben_Hall - tags: Agile, Ruby, TDD

hotgazpacho says: I grow weary of developing on the Microsoft platform.
4 days ago by Will Green (@hotgazpacho) - tags: Microsoft

hotgazpacho says: Stupid me. I've fired up a debugger in Visual Studio after 5 and actually expected it to work. Instead, WSOD. What was I thinking?
4 days ago by Will Green (@hotgazpacho) - tags: Visual Studio

hotgazpacho says: @Ben_Hall

Yeah, FFI for IronRuby would be nice.
4 days ago by Will Green (@hotgazpacho), in reply to @Ben_Hall - tags: DLR, Ruby

hotgazpacho says: Just used some Ruby-foo I learned from "Ruby for Rails" about Procs and code blocks in response to a post on the IronRuby mailing list :-)
4 days ago by Will Green (@hotgazpacho) - tags: DLR, Ruby

hotgazpacho says: RT @JonKruger

: Hey this feature is done! Until I tested it in IE. Crap. Can I bill Microsoft for this time?
4 days ago by Will Green (@hotgazpacho), retweet - tags: IE, Microsoft

hotgazpacho says: Control templates as styles just made it really simple to flip the direction of the arrows in a couple of expanders. Nice. #wpf
4 days ago by Will Green (@hotgazpacho) - tags: WPF

hotgazpacho says: @RoyOsherove

Regular should be no problem, its interpreted. Compiled is actually C. Don't know if IronPython has impl FFI /cc @jschementi

4 days ago by Will Green (@hotgazpacho), in reply to @RoyOsherove - tags: DLR

hotgazpacho says: @RoyOsherove

Do you mean regular Python, or compiled Python modules?
4 days ago by Will Green (@hotgazpacho), in reply to @RoyOsherove - tags: Python

hotgazpacho says: ...Or maybe I'll just edit this XAML in Vim. Cause, you know, it doesn't freeze on every other key press #sigh
4 days ago by Will Green (@hotgazpacho) - tags: XAML

hotgazpacho says: Hi ho, hi ho, a Blending I shall go... #wpf
4 days ago by Will Green (@hotgazpacho) - tags: WPF

hotgazpacho says: @ehexter

What sort of troubles are you having (other than being painfully slow on Windows)?
4 days ago by Will Green (@hotgazpacho), in reply to @ehexter - tags: Windows

hotgazpacho says: @ardalis

I dual-boot a 5-year-old notebook into Ubuntu. Ruby runs *plenty* fast there
4 days ago by Will Green (@hotgazpacho), in reply to @ardalis - tags: Ruby

hotgazpacho says: @sbohlen

Using .NET 4? Try named parameters.
4 days ago by Will Green (@hotgazpacho), in reply to @sbohlen - tags: .NET

hotgazpacho says: @benhyr

@ferventcoder

@ehexter

or pik install ruby 1.8 ;-)
4 days ago by Will Green (@hotgazpacho), in reply to @benhyr - tags: Ruby

hotgazpacho says: @ferventcoder

@ehexter

or ir -S gem install nu (ir -S is a way of executing any Ruby "script" with Ironruby)
4 days ago by Will Green (@hotgazpacho), in reply to @ferventcoder - tags: DLR, Ruby

hotgazpacho says: For those of us doing Ruby but stuck on Windows, pik (rvm equivalent) really is the bees knees.
4 days ago by Will Green (@hotgazpacho) - tags: Ruby, Windows

hotgazpacho says: Yup, that about sums it up! RT @ignu

: 8 Reasons I love Ruby http://post.ly/p0AI
4 days ago by Will Green (@hotgazpacho) - tags: Ruby

hotgazpacho says: RT @wycats

: Got Bundler's tests running on RSpec 2. Now pondering the general problem of Rails 2=>3 upgrade
4 days ago by Will Green (@hotgazpacho), retweet - tags: Ruby

hotgazpacho says: @jglozano

@ferventcoder

to match the name of a nude photography project, of course! (seriously, google "nu proj")
4 days ago by Will Green (@hotgazpacho), in reply to @jglozano - tags: Google

hotgazpacho says: @mhinze

@derickbailey

I highly recommend David A. Black's "Ruby for Rails". The middle two sections especially (which are 98% Ruby)
4 days ago by Will Green (@hotgazpacho), in reply to @mhinze - tags: Ruby

hotgazpacho says: @peterc

That's an order of magnitude less frequent than I find I have to reboot my Windows machine, especially when running Visual Studio :(
5 days ago by Will Green (@hotgazpacho), in reply to @peterc - tags: Visual Studio, Windows

hotgazpacho says: Do Mac users address most of their software problems by rebooting, like WIndows users do?
5 days ago by Will Green (@hotgazpacho) - tags: Windows

hotgazpacho says: @jglozano

Time to take another look at MonoDevelop, maybe?
5 days ago by Will Green (@hotgazpacho), in reply to @jglozano - tags: Mono

hotgazpacho says: The problem with video-card-accelerated drawing is that if the drivers aren't up to snuff, your app suffers. #wpf #nvidia
5 days ago by Will Green (@hotgazpacho) - tags: WPF

hotgazpacho says: @ampgt

Yikes! On the upside, it has been so long since I installed WIn 7 on anything that I don't remember the pain.
5 days ago by Will Green (@hotgazpacho), in reply to @ampgt - tags: Windows 7

hotgazpacho says: @ampgt

Please let us know how it works out. iTunes is the one reason I keep a Windows 7 partition around at home (until I can afford a Mac)
5 days ago by Will Green (@hotgazpacho), in reply to @ampgt - tags: Windows, Windows 7

hotgazpacho says: @kevindente

& @lazycoder

: remember our @herdingcode

discussion on Type vs Behavior? Reading Ruby for Rails cemented the distinction for me
5 days ago by Will Green (@hotgazpacho) - tags: Ruby

hotgazpacho says: @chadfowler

anything that looks like it was written by a C# developer...
5 days ago by Will Green (@hotgazpacho), in reply to @chadfowler - tags: C#

hotgazpacho says: My mind has been blown reading David A. Black's "Ruby for Rails". Really cements for me the power of Ruby, and how Rails makes use of it.
6 days ago by Will Green (@hotgazpacho) - tags: Ruby

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